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I'm the Principal of Lincoln Middle School. On 9-28-17 one of my students was hit by a car in the intersection of Channing Way and Robert Davey Jr. Dr. This is a very dangerous intersection and many students cross here on their way to Lincoln. Also, I know several people cross here to get to the bus stop.
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52 Commentos
City of Alameda (Ufficialità verificata)
BayFarm (Utente registrato)
Michael Murphy (Utente registrato)
Linda (Utente registrato)
Paul Canavese (Utente registrato)
Don (Utente registrato)
Nicole M. (Utente registrato)
My daughter was standing at the bus stop in front of the accident and saw the entire thing unfold. She is still tormented by the images she cannot get out of her head watching this 6th grader get hit by this car, flipping through the air and landing on the ground lifeless. She was in shock as were all of the kids at the bus stop. They were smart enough to call 911 and run to get the boys parents.
The car slowed down as it approached the cross walk, the kids assumed she was stopping, the car assumed the kids were going to let her pass as it seemed she was in a hurry. Neither fully stopped. Both boys almost got hit, one boy was hit hard.
My daughter was running late that day, so I drove her to the bus stop. She got out on the opposite side of the street from the bus stop and crossed the crosswalk just 1 minute before these boys crossed. It could have been her. Both of my daughters use this crosswalk everyday to go between their dads house and mine. I have pulled out from that intersection so many times and it's difficult to see traffic coming up the road from Auginbaugh.
A stop sign is absolutely necessary at this intersection. It's only a matter of time before this happens again.
Mike Mersch (Utente registrato)
Allikat7 (Utente registrato)
Rebekah Balboni (Utente registrato)
Diana O (Utente registrato)
FrankT (Utente registrato)
I use as a driver, biker and pedestrian. The last improvement was good for drivers because it allows us to safely pull out to see left-right. But it did nothing for bikers and pedestrians. Most drivers are at a reasonable speed and stop for me. However, a significant minority are speeding and, even when they see me, do not yield.
My concern about a stop sign is drivers who are not familiar with the route might not see it in time coming around the curve from Aughinbaugh. A “stop ahead” sign would be needed. An alternative to a stop sign could be a hump, along with a warning sign, like on Bayview Drive. That might slow them without requiring a complete stop.
Eric (Utente registrato)
Arden Kwong (Utente registrato)
Is it too much to ask for 4 stop signs, 4 four-way-stop signs, 4 poles, and 2 painted pedestrian islands with reflectors?
Stephanie Bertholdt (Utente registrato)
Enough is enough, does anyone else needs to get hurt!?
Make it a 4-way-stop!!!!!
There is a 4-way-stop at Puddingstone and Robert-Davey-Jr. why not at this intersection??
Arden Kwong (Utente registrato)
S Rimerman (Utente registrato)
BayFarm (Utente registrato)
I want to highlight that I officially petitioned to add a 4 way stop at that intersection a few years ago and was denied. This was before seeclickfix so I had to call someone and didn't know who else may have called before. But I can't have been the only one to call--why have they ignored our requests to make this intersection safe?
Does anyone know who we can call and demand for action to be taken? I don't want another child hurt before the city finally does something.
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
Before taking action, the City of Alameda must follow state DOT procedures and hold hearings, evaluate traffic and collisions based on statistics (warrants), etc., and follow design guidelines.
There are other options available besides stop signs, which are not as effective at improving pedestrian safety as you might imagine: speed humps or speed bumps, additional signage, better crosswalk painting, flashing light in the pavement, etc., are just a few. Please do not limit your thinking to only stop signs as the solution.....it may not be the best or only option for this situation.
Your activism and concern are good but you can also trust AlanTa, who is a committed and experienced traffic engineer, as well as the rest of the City of Alameda Public Works Department staff, to do a good job evaluating the incident and the intersection.
Arden Kwong (Utente registrato)
Eric (Utente registrato)
FrankT (Utente registrato)
Jon Spangler appears to be a knowledgeable citizen activist, per his LinkedIn profile. Worth listening to him regarding both process and potential best solution. I also just read through the minutes of a City of Alameda Transportation Commission meeting where Alan Ta was the key player and the Commissioners made decisions on similar matters. The process looked reasonable to me and Alan seemed to be thorough and professional.
So, I’m going to send and email to Alan to ask for his advice on how this matter might be expedited. If you want more on process, you can Google City of Alameda Transportation Commission (note the county has one, too).
Qurlgirl (Utente registrato)
Also, I think the 4-way Stop on Island & Mecartney needs to become a light. Anyone agree? I have a friend who was hit there as well.
Bayfarm resident (Utente registrato)
PYM (Utente registrato)
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
@Arden Kwong - The City of Alameda has to follow state laws and CA DOT regulations when deciding whether to install traffic signs and signals. (This is, in part, to make sure that communities do not install signals whimsically, maliciously, or otherwise without applying the "best practices" represented by state laws and regs: whether the state regs and procedures are in fact, representative of "best practices" and the latest research is another question.)
It has been a few years since I served on the Transportation Commission but I trust that the City of Alameda staff in Public Works as well as the Alameda PD and the members of the Transportation Commission do take pedestrian safety, speeding, this intersection, and the collisions and near-collisions there seriously.
I also commend everyone who is working to make our streets safer, especially in their neighborhoods.
I think it is time to adopt a Vision Zero Plan to eliminate traffic injuries and deaths by modifying our streets and roadways - particularly our intersections.
Alameda Parents (Utente registrato)
Chiusa gscowarrenhome@gmail.com (Utente registrato)
Reopened Daleylauren (Utente registrato)
KimP (Utente registrato)
Ann Naffziger (Utente registrato)
L.D. (Utente registrato)
Chiusa Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
@L.D.--Of course it does. Please remember that city staff members, including traffic engineers, are overworked and understaffed following budget cuts made during the recession (2008-2010) and before.
These "See-Click-Fix" reports are marked "closed" once it has been received and staff begins working on responding to the problems: please do not equate a lack of staff responses here with a lack of action on their part. Staff does not have the time or resources to reply to comments made in these threads if they want to get any work done to solve the problems themselves.
Solving traffic engineering problems is never instantaneous: as I noted previously, traffic engineers are REQUIRED to study intersections and design solutions based on the intersection's recorded collision/accident statistics and the best available technical solutions. (Stop signs have been shown to be ineffective at reducing collisions such as the one that recently occurred, BTW, so do not be surprised if the city staff recommends other options that are more effective at preventing additional pedestrian injuries.0
The city has to follow set procedures to evaluate each intersection's safety scientifically and statistically according to state laws and regulations: this takes time but will result in an effective solution. In the interim, I can attest–having worked closely with the Public Works Department's traffic engineers for many years, including the time before and after my service on the Transportation Commission (2002-2004)–that they care as deeply about reducing collisions and injuries as anyone who has posted here.
(It is why they are traffic engineers, after all.)
I hope everyone here can take a deep breath, remember that the people working for us as City of Alameda staffers (including and especially the ones working in public safety roles such as the traffic engineers) are capable, dedicated individuals working together to make our community better, just as we are as citizens. Nothing happens overnight in such matters, so expect solutions to be presented in a few weeks or months–AFTER a thorough and appropriate study has been done to determine how best to deal with this issue.
But fear not: you HAVE been heard.
Ann Naffziger (Utente registrato)
Don (Utente registrato)
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
#Don-
This platform is very effective for reporting problems to the city and a big improvement over previous methods. But there are far too many problems being reported for city staff to respond to each one personally online the way we have as citizens.
If city staff had the resources to respond more personally they would participate here more, I am sure–but they do not. I do not blame them for staying on-task (and fixing the problems we report) versus discussing them on social media.
This system is for reporting problems so they can get addressed. If more people would recognize that and not expect city staff to behave like FB friends here people would not be so disappointed. I have contacted Sarah Henry, the city's Public Information Officer ((510) 747-4714 | shenry@alamedaca.gov) to discuss this on a strategic level because there is an expectation on this platform that city staff. cannot currently meet if we want them to actually do their jobs and fix these problems instead of discussing them online.
Sarah Henry (Ufficialità verificata)
Thank you to everyone on this thread for their comments. We were all saddened by what happened and very much hope the child is recovering. Alameda Police Department is reviewing collision and citation records and will work with other departments to increase the safety at this intersection. As Jon mentioned, staff reviews all comments submitted into SeeClickFix. I will connect with Jon on how we can better explain when issues get closed or reassigned. We are also working on other ways to increase traffic safety throughout the island. If you have any questions about how we communicate to residents please contact me anytime by email at shenry@alamedaca.gov or by phone at 510-747-4714.
Many thanks again,
Sarah
Reopened Public Works Transportation Alan (Ufficialità verificata)
Riconosciuto Public Works Transportation Alan (Ufficialità verificata)
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
Isabella Lisitza (Utente registrato)
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
Arden Kwong (Utente registrato)
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
BayFarm, Arden Kwong, and all - There are very specific "warrants" (state standards) that must be met to install stop signs, signals, and other traffic controls. BayFarm may have been denied a four-way stop but other options might have been offered at that time, too (or not). In any case, current city policies are far more favorable to pedestrians, bicyclists, and transit access than they were 20 years ago.
Having been one of the activists who has helped improve the city's responsiveness to pedestrian, bike, and transit concerns since 1998, it is clear that the 2008-2009 Transportation Master Plan (and its associated specialty plans for peds, bikes, and transit) are far superior to the plans they replaced. See: https://alamedaca.gov/public-works/public-works-key-documents
This gives me the confidence in the city staff now working on this problem, and is why I advocate for them here without any stake, compensation, or reward other than my interest in traffic safety as a bicyclist, League Cycling Instructor, and local transportation advocate.
Don (Utente registrato)
@Jon, what I want is for the city to analyze the situation and do the right thing, whatever that may be. I am not a traffic engineer so I’ll defer to someone who is. It’s just so scary to see something like this happen. I was there shortly after the accident so saw the outcome. That’s what inspires me.
Having said that, 12 years ago our son was hit while he was on his bike at the intersection of Robert Davey and Puddingstone. The stop signs didn’t help there so I know they aren’t a perfect solution. As may have been the case this time, the sun was low and the person was harder to see. Not sure how to best address that. Slowing down will definitely help though.
gscowarrenhome@gmail.com (Utente registrato)
So very sorry for this horrific accident. It can't be undone - but some solution must be taken immediately.
I can tell that I fear this happening along Fifth St. very soon also - which saddens me to say, but I can hear the speeding going on during evening commutting & late at night & then in the early mornings !!! There are walkers w/their dogs along here, bus stops & commuter shuttles & many families as well as shoppers from the shopping center whom all take their lives in their own hands. People have no reason to be going any faster than 25 mi. per hr. along her. We have cross walks in many places here. Please slow down before its just too late.
Thank you
Jon Spangler (Utente registrato)
DeAnne (Utente registrato)
This intersection is deadly, I avoid it at all cost. I've been using it lately to avoid interferring with roadwork in my area.
I'm in a car & pull to the end of the extended island for a better look, before turning.
People drive so fast however, I cannot even make a right turn safely onto Robert Davey Jr. Dr.
Our town is very crowded & so many people speed & drive wrecklessly.
Today alone, I saw a man zig zag & speed around large trucks working on the road, whip aound my corner & "gun it", while his passenger had to hold on to the overwindow bar.
Also, today I was walking through a shopping center parking lot & was almost hit by a woman speeding & not paying attention. Lucky for me, I was paying close attention to my surroundings & jumped out of the way. She made eye contact but kept speeding through.
It seems to me, fast, wreckless driving is becoming the norm.
I believe a 4-way stop is not only needed at this intersection, but I'm in favor of many more stop signs being added around Alameda to control dangerous driving behavior.
Let's at least, get this one intersection under control.
Don (Utente registrato)
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