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My neighbors have warrants out for them and the police know where they are. I am wondering how long it will take for the police to come and arrest them? The police were told yesterday and another complaint has been made against them for threats. Does anyone know what we can do to get these people before they hurt someone? I have personally called the police, they know where these people are, so frustrating...
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annonymous (Guest)
kingstoncorridor.com (Guest)
Who is your alderman? Your personal representative, your voice, is your alderman. Be certain you have talked with him/her...
The alderman is essential to good government in Kingston. If you don't have a good alderman, government cannot work for you.
Use your alderman. Have no doubt: a good alderman will carry your message.
I suggest you do that, note the date and content, and post the information here and the the yahoo group for your ward.
You can be anonymous, but your alderman should not be.
Lisa (Guest)
kingstoncorridor.com (Guest)
You can have a good city, a good ward but it really does depend on good government, on good representation. Ward4 doesn't have it, and hasn't had it and probably a whole bunch of people think they don't even deserve it: not so.
Ward4 needs some really outstanding leadership and representation.
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citizen K (Guest)
And you know how? And you've done what work to verify that? And you live nearby?
The information one provides either speaks for itself or it doesn't.
There seems to be a contingent of writers here who get alarmed when criminals and their locations are pointed out.
Adam Alberts (Registered User)
warrant guru (Guest)
gberke, neighborhood watch (Guest)
And it is good to see that KPD or people close to KPD took notice and took the time to reply.
Thanks.
anon (Guest)
seeclickfix came on board before the Freeman started carrying it. and that is really all the Freeman does: carry it.
It is the citizens, alderpersons, neighborhood watch and the people in the various departments that make this thing good, or bad... it takes work.
Yeah, we do get testy. I find that going anonymous sort of gives a bit more license to being "testy"... Although one can contribute nicely, thoughtfully, and still contribute anonymously.
Even so, this place is becoming a lot more friendly and effective.
Peace
no name (Guest)
crystal (Registered User)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
Thank you for reaching out, thanks for the detail.
I see the someone from KPD responded to this site, and I should think that someone from KPD might reach out to you directly.
Our officials have names. When we reach out to these services, we have not just contacted "the police" we have contacted a person representing the police. If it goes no further than than a clerk, well, that clerk has a name and that's where the buck got stopped. When it has been passed up the line, again, there is a person, and that's where the responsibility resides.
Individuals in service certainly deserve our thanks when the job is done well, and they can be thanked by name. That's where the buck stopped.
A call from the police explaining the problem would certainly be in order.
Where's your alderman on this?
crystal (Registered User)
buford (Guest)
posted by annonymous:
"I know from personal experience about the 2 people who have the warrants for them, I made one of the complaints and my landlord made the other, we were advised on Thursday that a warrant will be issued for both of them due to the multiple threats to me, the landlord and the process server. So, yes I know that this is true. i am wondering what takes so long . We have to live in this condition of constant harassment to me and my children since I have to live in the same building as them. I am freightened of the male tenants behavior since he told the police he does not take his meds for his schizophrenia anymore. His behavior is erratic and mean at times. he has thrown a garbage can full of garbage towards my car since he could not open a gate that the landlord locked due to the traffic into the rear of the apt. Why my car, I can not explain, as I can not explain his irrational behavior and calling the police to tell them he see's craters in-front of the house that are going to swallow him. They said being crazy is not a crime until he hurts himself or others. The police have been to the apt 17 times since Oct. Is this something that we should be forced to live with? I have children and I am afraid for them when we try to leave the house and walk past his apt to get out the front door. "
it seems to be quite obvious that there is way more to this story than what was originally written. i think that the police would be more helpful IF the entire truth would come out. WHY is it that this person is harassing you? what provoked all of this? and why is it that you think that it's the police departments responsibility to make sure someone is taking their meds? are you the only person that this person is harassing? there's more to this story than what you posted. im not saying that you are wrong ... im not saying that you are not being harassed ... im simply saying that the WHOLE truth has not been layed out here. and if you are in such FEAR for you and your children, why not stay elsewhere for the time being. and, do you honestly think that this person being arrested is going to make things better??? no!!! in fact .. it's probably going to make matters worse!!! it sounds like this person needs more help than what the police can offer. i would highly recommend contacting 1) uc mental health services 2) uc dss 3) uc adult services. this is what your neighbor needs .... arresting him is not going to be the answer .... it's going to be band aid to a continued problem. because you signed a harassment complaint, do you honestly think that a judge is going to lock this guy up and throw away the key for 100 years? i understand the frustration but there are better ways of handling this situation. i hope that you follow my recommendations. before you know it, kpd is going to get called to fix plumbing and electricity!!!
as far as the warrant is concerned: your response was answered and i can see why. chief keller and his staff are dwindling in numbers while the call volume is the same. kudos to keller for working with what he has. im sure that you'll see this person in custody within a week. just be patient.
buford (Guest)
posted by no name:
"Harassment may be a simple violation but not to the person who was harassed. If they did the crime, they should do the time. Criminals in Kingston will continue to commit crimes if they think they can get away with it.
no name
about 3 hours ago"
this is true, n/n. but consider the fact that the legal system has been so bogged down by bogus complaints that its not even funny. i think that it would be an interesting stat to post the amount of 'harassment' complaints that have been signed over the past three years. my guess is that its on a rise. why? because people are abusing the system. just like with welfare fraud and other crimes, people call the police because 'this one is harassing me!!' give me a break!! if people in this community could only become friendlier towards each other ... if they could only work together towards each other ... if they could only be more forgiving towards each other .... then this thread, and many others like it, would be extinct. people really need to grow up and to take responsibility for their own actions. they don't. why? because it's much easier to blame somebody else than to admit that they are wrong. they would much rather call the police to resolve their very petty differences. it's so sad to listen to on the scanner!
kudos to keller and kpd!
Adam Alberts (Registered User)
crystal (Registered User)
crystal (Registered User)
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crystal (Registered User)
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"You have not converted a man merely because you have silenced him".
There is a serious social and civil issue involved here and an possible indictment of a justice system that is failing to maintain order.
Keep this one visible and track this to a successful resolution.
annonymous (Guest)
Diana (Guest)
Bruce Margopoulos (Guest)
no name (Guest)
buford (Guest)
no name wrote: "Buford? Im sure there are many bogus complaints made to the police in EVERY city, but what about the ligitamate complaints that go unnoticed. Again, if criminals in Kingston think there are no repercussions to their actions, they will continue to commit crimes."
well, n/n, i am sure that there are MANY illegitimate complaints made to the police every day. look at the recent robbery suspect that was caught in ulster. he called ulster pd to draw them away from the store that he was to robbing. and you're gonna sit here and tell me that this NEVER happens? yeah ... ok!
as far as anon goes: you continue to bash kpd in this thread. you continue to bash the very same people you wish to help you. how would you feel if the people you tried to help bashed you? im thinking that your outcome will be resolved but not to the way you think. you're question was asked ... noticed ... and obviously answered ... i, myself, probably would have been happy knowing that your post was even noticed by someone who knows someone in contact with a kpd member. i would have said 'hey! thank you for noticing my thread and knowing that i would appreciate a prompt resolve. thank you for your attention.' that notice was 3/4 the battle. but you continue to bash the very same people you wish to help you. instead of being appreciative that your post was noticed, you just want to bash people. good luck to you, anon!
i think this thread should remain open. please, let us know how your bashing is working out for you.
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no name (Guest)
annonymous (Guest)
kingstoncorridor.com (Guest)
Sorry about some of the attitudes you run into, that is bound to happen.
Most people are interested in understanding the problem and would like to see it solved effectively.
I see RUPCO is involved, your landlord wife is fearful, and mediation has not worked, but back to the case about having a warrant served: has that not been done?
And of course, it is hard to judge the case from the notes except to note that there are bad feelings, nasty language, loud noise... all of which may be legal. And that is unfortunate.
I would suggest you be a member of Neighborhood Watch and encourage your like minded neighbors to join: it that there is a feeling of support, shared experience and connection to other people who want to be good neighbors.
It doesn't take much to be a good neighbor at least most of the time:
1) keep a neat appearance, neat and clean yard and sidewalk
2) keep sounds inside your house, be considerate of neighbors when outside
3) know your neighbors and greet them when you see them. Exchange kindnesses.
4) lend a helping hand when someone falls behind
That's not gonna happen all the time. There will be a party, leaves on the lawn, late to get the snow off, occasional disagreements that might spill out... that happens. Personally I can't make that list 100% of the time, for sure.
But people in Neighborhood Watch at least know what it is to be a good neighbor, what they are supposed to try to achieve.
Thanks to all who work to be good neighbors. That counts a whole lot.
hurleycrab (Guest)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registered User)
Hello,
sorry for the late reply. I've been alittle busy trying to save my house from forclosure and find Zach.
I will forward this to KDP and Ulster Sherriff. If I hear back from them, I will post about it.
Good luck and please, whatever you do STAY SAFE. Do NOT put yourself in harms way.
annonymous (Guest)
kingstoncorridor.com (Guest)
Not a behind the scenes play, but a simple public one.
I don't know that this is a formula that anyone can repeat but look at the pieces:
A respected member of the community, family man, working class (as opposed to hugely wealthy, investment/professional) writes a public letter to named officials in the city.
He knows these people, they know him.
He puts the whole thing out there, and asks politely of all these people, is there something you can do?
It might seem simple when it gets broken down to the components, but that's deceptive: it takes involvement, lots of preparation, the development of trust and credibility and then and very well written, timely, polite and politic public request to the right people... no "anonymous", every body has names.
Perfectly executed, as good as any triple flip dismount in gymnastics and yeah, he stuck the landing.
Thanks, Mike.
annonymous (Guest)
buford (Guest)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
The people who are being evicted must surely be on this list. If not, the landlord is free to have that information posted, or indeed, anyone else can inform the site owners of the case.
No competent person or broker agency renting property, can be ignorant about this information.
http://kingstonlandlordsupport.org/
annonymous (Guest)
Since this info I am posting is a matter of public record, my neighbors are on E-court.. It is a website that posts when you have been served by the court, whether it is city court or higher. There names are Keith Campbell and Andrea Small.. They have many non-payments on there from multiple apartments. I go to court with them on Wed. and Friday. If they are not gone by Friday they will be removed by the Sheriff and there possessions removed to the curb. The landlord needs to reposes this apt. and a no-trespass order is being asked for by the landlord.They have had more than 3 months to move, 3 court visits and still insist they should live rent free. They can afford take-out 3-4 times a week but can not pay rent? These are habitual tenants who go from one apt to another and do not pay. No bank accounts and they change jobs more than I change under wear..LOL If you know of any landlord in Kingston please advise them to check E-courts before renting to anyone...
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/ecourtsMain
Gerald Berke (Registered User)
Can you please post the actual page you refer to, or precisely how you got to it?
annonymous (Guest)
Go to e-courts as listed. 1) then go to web civil local..ON RIGHT SIDE OF BOX... 2) party search.3). put there name in PARTY NAME.. hit the button for Either,, NOT PLAINTIFF OR DEFENDANT.. 4) IN 2ND BOX SAYS courts look for Kingston city court.. BOTH OF THERE NAMES COME UP.. Keith B. Campbell and Andrea Small
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivilLocal/LCSearch
annonymous (Guest)
annonymous (Guest)
Civil
3 ) Kingston City Court SC-017632-03/KN Disposed KEITH B CAMPBELL MANAGER KING S INN MR EDDIE 07/06/2004 Honorable James P. Gilpatric
Civil
4 ) Kingston City Court SC-018445-04/KN Disposed KEITH B CAMPBELL KINGS INN XIAO HUANG 07/06/2004 Honorable James P. Gilpatric
Civil
5 ) Kingston City Court CC-020349-05/KN Disposed KEITH B CAMPBELL SE FOWLER & KEITH SAWHORSE LUMBER HAROLD MITTLEMAN 04/22/2005 Honorable James P. Gilpatric
Civil
6 ) Kingston City Court LT-034502-09/KN Disposed 49 Greenkill Management LLC JASON KOVACS ESQ Andrea Small 01/07/2010 Honorable James P. Gilpatric
Civil
7) Kingston City Court SC-036693-10/KN Disposed Keith B. Campbell Mid Hudson Valley Federal Credit Union Michael F Jordan Esq. 09/10/2010 Honorable Lawrence E. Ball
Civil
8 ) Kingston City Court LT-038260-11/KN Disposed Manto Legakis Rebecca Ann Millouras-Lettre Andrea Small 01/20/2011 Honorable Philip W. Kirschner
Civil
Gerald Berke (Registered User)
OK.. Got it. Not much information about the case at all, not immediately available anyway... might have to go by foot to see the court records.
I think this is a much better site for information:
http://kingstonlandlordsupport.org/
Both are listed, from January of last year.
There are a couple of hundred names in the data base. And a warning to check for the use of aliases.
If one is doing any kind of renting, this is a must visit site. Good for the landlord, good for the neighbors.
annonymous (Guest)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
That date must
The sheriff allows about 4 hours to do this, and it has to be completed in that time, so the landlord is advised to have enough support to get it done in case the tenant does not. In addition, DPW should be notified that there is an eviction schedules so that they can have a truck by to clear the curb debris quickly.
Again, there is data from the BAK site for landlords which is a data base of tenants who have had court actions against them: it is very poor business practice to rent a place out without checking this list in addition to whatever security, deportment and financial checks are made.
A good landlord manages their property and also secures good tenants for the property and the neighborhood.
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Adam Alberts (Registered User)
buford (Guest)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
Only when the eviction is completed property will the tenant be denied access, and locks change, and indeed, will the tenant actually be out: evictions do not happen on their own and require police supervision.
This is a country of law, and what we can and cannot due in such matters is completely covered by law to insure orderly and fair compliance.
Be certain: when an eviction takes place, the sheriffs attendance is vital to oversee the process and insure order.
From the nature of the posts, Buford, you demonstrate enough hostility on your own to merit that supervision, if not a request that seeclickfix identify you in an order of protection.
Nobody gets evicted because "people don't like them": the law governs that quite well and there must be cause: not paying the rent is one of them. If you abide by the terms of the lease you cannot be evicted.
Adam Alberts (Registered User)
Community Neighbor (Guest)
"Sheriff" here is used like "Police"
Adam Alberts (Registered User)
annonymous (Guest)
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buford (Guest)
first of all, yes, i have made some pretty harsh posts. i probably should have been a bit more courteous. but, unlike you, annonymous, i can recognize that. i can recognize something i did wrong and say, 'hey - i may have messed up. im sorry" i can also thank people who have been in this thread trying to assist you. there have been some fantastic and very informative posts. did you ever say "thank you" to the police, to citizen k, to mr. berke? NO .... you did NOT! and, i know you have a difficult time accepting blame for your own actions, but you DID give the police a wrong name. im not saying you did it deliberately, but the fact remains that is what you did. the police can only execute a name on a warrant. they can not execute a warrant that has "numerous" nicknames .... you will never a find a judge to sign that warrant. and who do you think it was that gave the police and court that name to be put on the warrant? YOU did!! the police or court did not just randomly come up with a name that they picked out of a hat ... you think?
and then you start a thread, bashing the police, bashing the sheriffs office ..... the very people you want to help you you're attempting to degrade? how would you feel if someone was bashing you left and right but they wanted your help .... or your services? would you be receptive to that person? would you REALLY want to help them?
again, your obvious lack of appreciation, i think, is a part of this as well. sometimes all it takes is a simple "thank you." nobody in this thread who has made it a point to try and help you have heard you say that yet. but since you won't, guess i will: i would to take this time to thank EVERYBODY who has attempted to help annonymous. i found some very informative and very helpful posts in here! citizen k: great job in your explanations. and mr. berke: thank you for the suggestions on where landlords can look up potential tenants. i have passed that information on to many i know who are landlords. that was awesome! and thanks to the alderman and all the other readers ... i hope that they, too, can learn from this.
and just like you, annonymous, i will probably continue to post in this thread until you stop posting and / or your issue gets resolved .... of which, by the way, i really DO hope that it does. but sometimes you need too think about not only what your doing but how you're doing it. have a nice day! :)
"To all of the judgmental readers who responded to my posts, I never gave false information. I also provided Lt. Gaston with all of there aliases. Only one name was on the warrant, not my fault and it was corrected with in hours and they were arrested. I have an order of protection against both tenants for threats to me and to my property, witnessed by neighbors and the landlord. They have not payed rent since Nov.1st. 850 dollars is due every month, and the landlord has not been payed.. I did not ask for the order of protection. judge Ball saw there outrageous behavior and there lack of respect, plus 3 reports have been filed. one from me, landlord and next door neighbor who is a respected cabinet maker and a great guy. The Sheriff's office was payed to do there job. The set date for eviction was Feb 4th, they have not served the eviction as of today .Why? The landlord called and was told they were too busy and they will be served.. Really When? The tenant says they will be out by tomorrow at 7 am. We shall see. So to those who say I am complaining, I will send the tenants to your house or your landlord and YOU can deal with the drug dealers all hours of the night, the drunks throwing up in the hall way. and the non payment of rent and harassment. I have given truth full info about these people. If you have a problem with my posts, read something else.. BUFORD ESPECIALLY..
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about 13 hours ago
Community Neighbor (Guest)
It's work to be a landlord, and it 's work to be a tenant, both having to live up to someone else's expectations, but it's quite lovely when they manage to do that
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