I agree this traffic signal is terrible. While waiting (forever) to get through the light, I've pondered exactly what the road commission was trying to accomplish with the timing & as yet have not figured it out.

The light is counter intuitive. Left turns happen at times when there are yellow lights for other directions...I am 46 years old and this is the most confusing light I have ever seen. There are times where you have a yellow and could conceivably hang a left in front of oncoming traffic that has a green unbeknwonst to you...FIX IT!!! I have children just learning to drive and I am fearful for our safety!!!

These new signals have now been approved as standard guidelines and installed throughout the entire country, so drivers should become familiar with their operation.

Cut and paste these links to your browser for great info on how these new signals work:

http://www.rcocweb.org/Lists/Publications/Attachments/18/Flashing%20yellow09.pdf

http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,1607,7-151-9615_44557-157538--,00.html

Just because they will be put in place all over doesn't mean they are safe or easy to understand. The deal on the yellow light is confusing. I walk that intersection every day and each time I pass through it, there are people doing silly things. I know that there are many other intersections with the same problems. Just make it easy for everyone, seniors, empty-nesters, young people and newbie drivers alike.

These are now considered the standard with a goal to make signals the same throughout the entire country. They have been proven more effective in controlling traffic and safer. Check the two links we posted above for information on how to read these signals to familiarize yourselves with how they work and pass the information on to your friends and family!

I belive MI was one of the few states to originaly have the flashing red ball left turn signals... people here are used to the operation of the old signals. one problem with these new ones regardless if they are "standard througout the country now or not" is that when people see the solid yellow arrow, some people being hasty think this is the end of the protected left turn phase, when actually the permissive phase can also end with a solid yellow. I would like to see the statistics and how these lights are safer HERE than what we had before! Personaly my dad was involved in a bad accident at cass in grosebeck because the left turner thought they had the right of way on the solid yellow, the issue is people anticipate what these signals are going to do, but they act different according to the traffic situations, you have to pay attention to the signal, and always more attention to the oncoming traffic.

Personally, I think these lights are much better than the old ones. The problem with Hayes/22 Mile is that there is just too much traffic for two lane roads. Hayes should have been widened long ago to 23 Mile Road along with Romeo Plank to 23 Mile Road.

Maybe once they get the new lights working at Hayes/23 Mile Road things will get better at Hayes/22. Also, the public has to educate themselves on these lights. The Macomb County Road Commission has the lick to do just that on their website.

I agree. One should not have to go to a website to understand a traffic light! Red, yellow, green solid lights and flashing red we understand. I see no purpose in adding red, yellow, green steady arrows and flashing yellows. There is no need for arrows.. I know if I am in a left or right only turning lane, you don't have to tell me.

A solid red right arrow????? What does this mean? Can I still turn right if the traffic is clear? I think yes but my brain says no when looking at a red steady arrow. Seems to me it should be flashing red if a turn is allowed after a full stop and when the traffic clears.

Just a waste of taxpayers money. Especially when no one will pick up a phone when I call to ask a question. Do they ever pick up a ringing phone? I don't think so, they are screening their calls.

I totally agree with motorcycle rider's comments. People are anticipating the light to do one thing & it does another.How many times have we seen people in the left turn lane end up stuck in the middle of the intersection? Anyone that goes through here can see the backups.

For the most part I do think these lights are helpful. The one at 25 mile & schoenherr works very well at adjusting the signals to traffic flow. So do many of the new lights at other intersections. But there is something just not right with the ones at 22 & Hayes...the timing is off or something. Ever since these lights were put in traffic has gotten worse here. There are massive backups in every direction. Would be interesting to find out if accidents have increased at this intersection since they've been installed.

You only need to sit at this intersection around 4-6pm to see that whatever has been done is NOT WORKING. You're always going to find someone to complain about something, but look at how many people are posting about this...we can't all be just a bunch of whiners lol. The lights at this particular intersection really need to be looked at again because something is not right here.

The light at 22 mi & Hayes does not work with the number of lanes it has. This ain't Florida ! Some kid engineer try to make a name for himself !

Shelby News on Cable has a police officer and a spokes person letting us all know that the reason we are confused and things are going badly at these intersections is our fault "we are trying to anticipate what the other lights are doing". Sorry guys.. you are sooo wrong. I could care less what the other lights are doing, I am just trying to figure out what is going on in the direction I am going.

They also say that these lights move the traffic load better and the roads do not need to be widened now!!!!!!

Our gas tax is suppose to go to roads, that is why we are taxed. Put the technology in better road construction not in these idiotic lights.

According to the Macomb Commission website they are to widen Hayes from 21 1/2 Mile to 23 Mile Road starting in 2012.

I saw that Shelby news episode. Did you catch that the cop also said that they're see an INCREASE in the number of accidents at intersections with these lights? Rather than blaming drivers I think they need to really look at the underlying design of these lights. I'm starting to believe that they are good for low traffic intersections but for heavy traffic situations they just don't work. I've also noticed that they don't seem to work as good at night?