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Drug pushers and prostitutes can be found during all hours of the day/night at the Sunoco station on broadway
Meldende Person
Drug pushers and prostitutes can be found during all hours of the day/night at the Sunoco station on broadway
137 Kommentierens
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Anonymous (Gast)
Anonymous (Gast)
citizen k (Gast)
Something is amiss in the way seeclickfix is operating...
while the email is confidential, there needs to be some unique ID to represent the citizen.
fire (Registrierter Benutzer)
General Lee Froggy (Registrierter Benutzer)
Fire: If this really happened, you should have gotten the patrol car number (prominently displayed) called KPD and talked to the Lt.
It's *very* doubtful that any cop would pay *any* of the crack hoes for sex. Being on the street the cops are very aware of the deadly risks.
Having said that, I do agree that Sunocco *should* be cleaned up. It has long been a gathering place for dealers and prostitutes.
Anonymous (Gast)
The trash that hangs out there uses the back of the building for sex and as a bathroom, one can smell the urine on a still hot summer day! The police are there on official business almost everyday. Shut this crap-holem down! Write to Sunco about a franchise that is a scab on broadways face!
Anonymous (Gast)
concerned citizen (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
The council giver their full attention to any citizen who wants to speak, stand up and be counted. Just a 30 second talk is all it takes.
And you can get an update there on what is happening in the city that is fixing this stuff...
And you can meet the other people who are working to get this problem cleaned up.
There is the Block by Block, the is the enforcement of the Nuisance Act, and the council is in a position to recommend a foot patrol.
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/TheCompany/SocialResponsibility/OurPurpose.htm
Selected Location:
Click on location name to get a map
Sunoco Retail Location
675 BROADWAY
KINGSTON, NY 12401
(845) 339-9010
Responsible Citizenship:
Conducting our business with the highest standards of ethics, adherence to the law, and "doing what's right" -- thereby continuing Sunoco's legacy of encouraging a healthy and safe workplace, responsible government, a highly competitive free enterprise system, environmental excellence and community enrichment.
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Main Office
Sunoco, Inc.
1735 Market Street Ste LL
Philadelphia, PA 19103-7583
General phone: 215-977-3000
Fax: 215-977-3409
Consumer Relations
For comments or questions about Sunoco's Retail products or services:
P O Box 895
Exton, PA 19341
Customer Service
1-800-SUNOCO-1
(1-800-786-6261)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Operated by a company here in Kingston.............
Gas Land petrolium Inc.
785 Broadway
Kingston NY 12401
Attn: Mitch Nesheiwat
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Just had an awsome conversation with the property owners. The neighborhood watch and the company that owns the property are going to work togther to solve this issue.
They are just as outraged as we all are about the crime and drugs that lingers at that location!
phototaker (Gast)
Suzy A (Gast)
I LOVE this Sunoco station!!! I always feel safe there because there's always police cruisers there!!!
I just tell the hustlers "I'm sorry I have no cash" and they leave me alone.
(I'm sorry those people have such hard lives. We could turn that Sunoco station into an Intake Station for Social Services.)
phototaker (Gast)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Hi Poster,
One of the other things you SHOULD do is collect as much information as you can about this situation.
To Accurately Report a Problem:
Make sure it is something you saw or heard yourself! Hearsay won't help legally. Try to take pictures or shoot a quick video. A picture IS worth a thousand words!
Take note of:
Time of day
Area, address, cross streets
Vehicle Color,Makes and Models
Describe where this takes place (e.g., basement, side of building, etc.)
Gender: Male or Female and aproximates age
Ethnicity: White, Black, Hispanic, Asian
Height
Weight
Complexion
Hair color & Hair style
Eye color
Facial hair Scars, tattoos or other identifiable marks
Identifiable traits
Distinctive clothes or jewelry
Accent if any
We also have made available this form that you can download to fill it:
http://www.teamdarcyinc.com/forms/complaint.doc
Just click the link and then either OPEN or SAVE the document. It's in Mircosoft Word and you can then print it and fill it out.
If you need more forms or information about Kingston Neighborhood Watch goto
http://www.kingston-ny-neighborhood-watch.com
Please forward completed form to:
Info@kingston-NY-neighborhood-watch.com
AND/OR
Ulster County Sheriff’s Office
Det. Lt. Ed Brewster, Det. Sgt. Brian Robertson, Det Sgt. Dirk Bodd
380 Boulevard, Kingston, NY 12401
Email to: ebre@co.ulster.ny.us
Phone: 845-384-6232
or Police Lieutenant Egidio Tinti
City of Kingston Police Department
Telephone (845) 331 4766
etinti@kingston-ny.gov
etinti@ucletg.com
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Correcting the link
http://www.teamdarcyinc.com/complaint.pdf
General Lee Froggy (Registrierter Benutzer)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Suzy A (Gast)
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2009/04/28/news/doc49f68a959ebc3306658459.txt
And "right-on" phototaker!
Inside every street person is a story that will break your heart, and they have to cope with that every day somehow. I wouldn't want to trade lives...I've also been harassed at the Mobil station by the traffic circle in Kingston. I went right inside and brought it to the clerk's attention, saying if he was going to allow this, I was not going to continue to get any gas there, because it's too scary for me. He asked me where the person was and then stepped out from behind the counter and went out and confronted the offender and ran him off--which was very risky but immediately effective. I think the owners do care, but they also need to be reminded that their customers care. If you want something done, bring it to the clerk's attention. Take the initiative. Every time you are harassed go in and tell the clerk who did it and what they person did or said. But if you expect that you can just sweep this problem under the rug or just over towards another station, well dream on.
concerned teen (Gast)
Suzy A (Gast)
General Lee Froggy (Registrierter Benutzer)
Allison Gray Teetsel (Registrierter Benutzer)
The clerks do their best to handle people who are a nuisance INSIDE the store, and might continue to be responsive to complaints about those outside,
but as posted above, they also do things like accept EBT payments for beer and cigarettes.
There have been recent arrests there by KPD (one in particular was an open container violation), so it seems the police are aware that this is a problem area...not sure what it is going to take to completely resolve the issue, though.
vadhopper (Registrierter Benutzer)
As with most big problems, it will take ongoing persistence and a caring community.
I too have felt nervous getting gas there before. I still do it - generally in a suit and tie (what bigger target could I be wearing). But I've never been hassled. Don't give panhandlers money - they can get food if they need it from the Queens Galley or People's Place (give the money to those organizations!). Generally they use the money they panhandle for drugs or alcohol - since other money is restricted.
If you see something - as Mike Darcy says - record all the info and report it! Report it to the police and to the clerk inside, and the owners. Yes, it's a pain in the butt. But if you care - take action. Go out of your way.
Change comes slow. Don't expect overnight success. Don't give up! Keep up the watch.
Sick of It! (Gast)
kingstoncorridor.com (Gast)
This is the original topic...
Drug pushers and prostitutes can be found during all hours of the day/night at the Sunoco station on broadway 675 Broadway,Kingston,NY 12401,USA
I note, again, the request for cops on the beat. What the police do, how they are deployed and why: seems like the citizens have something to say.
gberke 26 maiden ln (Gast)
I'm in Ward 4, Shirley Hashiem.
Anyone who has some good stuff to say about their alderman, this is a good place.
Anonymous (Gast)
Still sick of it! (Gast)
Uncle Sam (Gast)
Concerned business (Gast)
Anonymous (Gast)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
@Concerned
Did you post about a party?
Allison Gray Teetsel (Registrierter Benutzer)
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A Broadway Business (Gast)
I do not buy into that "Inside every street person is a story that will break your heart" crap, each one of these pigs are a pimple on the @#$% of society. My tax dollars are feeding them and taking care of the kids they arent allowed to keep anymore and they are out there spreading disease to these dirty old men and thier familys and making the neighborhood an eyesore so they can get over on the system and buy another rock to smoke.
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
YOur write up helps. Not a pretty picture. Thank you for the description of 4 prostitutes: at the same time it points the finger at the prostitutes, it points the finger away from every other woman who has the right to be on the street and NOT be considered a prostitute.
I'll see that I can recognize those women from your description. And note the unfortunate clients as well.
gerald berke
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
ok.. I'm looking for an update on this issue.
What I am looking for is photo evidence of the situation remaining the same.
I'll take photos of any type of gatherings in the spot off to the side along that guard rail.
If it's still going on, i can contact the owners of the property and take steps yet again to correct this problem.
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
This is really the opportunity of a lifetime: to be in on the beginning of change in KIngston and to be able to take part in it, people taking care, looking out, cleaning up, planting gardens.
And when you're out on the street, don't forget to give the people a little smile.
And check out Kingstonhappenings.org to see what's happening in town.
keep on truckin'
zakstone333 (Registrierter Benutzer)
Anonymous (Gast)
CONCERNED (Gast)
LOOK AT THE BROADWAY FRONTAGE....."USED TIRES" REPAIR SHOPS, CHAIN LINK FENCES, FORMER GAS STATIONS USED AS JUNKYARDS/USED CARS FOR SALE.
THE CITY SHOULD BE MORE STRINGENT ON HOW "MERCHANTS" KEEP THEIR PROPERTY. THE ZONING SHOULD REFLECT WHAT GOES ON THERE.
LONG TIME KINGSTONIANS ACCEPT THESE TYPES OF USES AND THE CONDITION THEY ARE IN. IF THIS CITY (GOVERNMENT) IS SERIOUS ABOUT POSITIVE CHANGE, LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE. THE PLANNING BORED (PUN INTENDED) NEEDS TO ADDRESS A CONCEPTUAL , LARGER PLAN FOR KINGSTON INSTEAD OF THE USUAL NARROW MINDED, SELF SERVING BUSINESS AS USUAL CONCEPT WHICH HAS PERVADED THIS FINE CITY FOR YEARS.
POWER HUNGRY CONTROLLING MASTERS OF KINGSTON'S FATE NEED TO BE REPLACED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ENTIRE CITY INTERESTS IN MIND INSTEAD OF HOW TO GET ELECTED AND SUPPORT THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR CAMPAIGN.
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
By all means, contact your alderman.
And another office you might reach is the office of the Main Street Manager or the Mid Town Business Association, part of the Kingston Business Alliance, all of which get special attention and funds from the City of Kingston.
and please see KIngstonCorridor.com: that aims to make the entire path through KIngston bright, pedestrian friends, and easily navigable.
There was a wonderful cleanup day that was organized by Friends of Historic KIngston and the Broadway portion of the corridor got swept: looks like we need to do that much more often than once a year.
But do write you alderman and the business organizations. And share that correspondence here.
annonymous (Gast)
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
So, I'll make it a point to stop in there often. I live close, on Maiden Lane, no problem for me.
Old joke about Texas where someone said it was nice, but all it needed was some water and some good people.
It was observed that Hell would be much improved with the same additions.
Water and good people: that's all it takes.
Anonymous (Gast)
(Leave a bottle of water to show your support.)
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
tell me about this bottle of water thing...
Anonymous (Gast)
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
I wonder who owns that? That is of course Ward 4, alderman Shirley Hashiem.
I'll send her a note on the ward 4 yahoo group....
MadJak (Gast)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Way to be positive there Jak.....
With an attitude like that... who needs enemys..
annonymous (Gast)
TIRED IN K-TOWN..
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Hi,
I can't stop you from leaving Kingston. But it does suck that you have too....
And your post was better presented than Jak's, not everything in Kingston is a joke... I'm not laughing anyway.
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
There are yet some fine homes and people in Midtown. and I think things are getting better. But yeah, if you can afford it, move away from Midtown... makes sense. Your responsibility to do right by your family comes first. Heck, you could move to lots of nicer places in KIngston. But moving south, to be with family: of course. Best of luck. And thanks for being here.
We have some really fine new aldermen: Levin, Fuentes, Clement: they JUST got in and they are making a huge difference... and more to follow. If we had someone in Ward 4, strong, like Fuentes in Ward 5, wow, what a huge difference that could make! And this Neighborhood Watch: it is the most active and effective citizen anti crime action I've ever seen... nothing came close.
And look how it is leveraging technology to get us all talking... just a few months ago, this would have been impossible.
So, good luck to you, and good luck to us too.
annonymous (Gast)
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
It was a gun, it went though 2 windows, dented an appliance.
Police were called, all was written up, only bullet fragments were found (glass is hard)
It seems a man with a gun was seen around 3 a.m.
It would be sooo nice to have a late night security camera... that's when the cameras are really needed, to watch for us when we can't. Be cool, to have the whole midtown section of the Kingston Corridor watched... like, from like 1am to 5 am.
You know, if that place were safer, you might see MORE people enjoying the cool summer night.
Might miss some, but might get some, and none of the good guys are getting watched by "big brother"
annonymous (Gast)
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
Please send me the address... to gberke@gmail.com
We do have to find out why something like this seems to be so very hard.
Gerald Berke (Registrierter Benutzer)
Suggestion: Start a new issue so we can track this...
By the way, Vandeusen is one nice street! The yards are really well kept, and you have commerce right there, a cabinet shop and a new art gallery opening in that great little building near Broadway. Taking a while, but I expect that will be open to visitors on Kingston's First Saturday.
Yes, a new issue, open it, we'll work on it, and get it closed. But these things take a little bit of time, so if it takes a week or two, please hang in there.
Thanks.
I printed off a copy of the whole string, so this whole string can be closed and reopened afresh.
annonymous (Gast)
thank you Mr. Berke.. the Mitsubishi is still another car that Perry's has on the street and not on there property. it is supposed to be towed away but they leave it on the street so it does not take up room on there property for cars they are working on.. The car in question is still at M&L nail salon on Broadway. right across the street from Perry's. And he was in it last night, being homeless and all..
I am going to make a new issue. Thanks again..
Eyes on Midtown (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
so we can ask and get in touch directly without having to post our names and email here... some might not want to
annonymous (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
For whatever can or can't be done, I consider these postings a warning call to everyone, look out, those hurried sounds the birds make when the cat or some such is around.
It helps a whole lot to let people know... thanks for the heads up.
It's a tough case, but it happens.
By the way, there is some really good stuff happening on that very same section of Broadway... I'm working on a write up....
This really is going to be a good year for KIngston!
Anonymous (Gast)
Anonymous (Gast)
Uh-oh, the homeless population is up among teens too:
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2010/06/30/news/doc4c2acddf41b17524133083.txt
It's up in other districts as well. Many families in crisis.
frank (Gast)
when one of the stations clerks came out and looked
one of the group said "what the F#$# are you looking at get the f#$%^ back inside"
the clerk went back inside
they are scared of these people and calling the cops on them will only result in the clerks getting hurt by them
Michael D'Arcy please relay this information to the property owners
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Darcy (Gast)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Hi all,
I have passed this information onto the propery owners. the woman I spoken with was in agreement about the complaints and will be taking these steps to correct it.
1: She has called the owners of the station about this issue already. If you look over all the replys here you will see that I have delt with this issue before.
2: She will be calling them again, aswell as sending someone personally to speak with the owners.
3: She will be calling KPD to see if they can keep a closer eye on that propety.
Now she also said that if this coninues that she will go over ALL OPTIONS to bring this to an end.
Lastly....
Hi, I'm Mike D'Arcy. I'm no different then anyone posting here, I have no real connections to get huge things done here in the city. When this topic was started, all I did was lookup who the owners where thru public information. Posted the information here, and made a few phone calls. Any of you could step up and do the same.
Here is all the information I have on them..
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/TheCompany/SocialResponsibility/OurPurpose.htm
Selected Location:
Click on location name to get a map
Sunoco Retail Location
675 BROADWAY
KINGSTON, NY 12401
(845) 339-9010
Responsible Citizenship:
Conducting our business with the highest standards of ethics, adherence to the law, and "doing what's right" -- thereby continuing Sunoco's legacy of encouraging a healthy and safe workplace, responsible government, a highly competitive free enterprise system, environmental excellence and community enrichment.
Main Office
Sunoco, Inc.
1735 Market Street Ste LL
Philadelphia, PA 19103-7583
General phone: 215-977-3000
Fax: 215-977-3409
Consumer Relations
For comments or questions about Sunoco's Retail products or services:
P O Box 895
Exton, PA 19341
Customer Service
1-800-SUNOCO-1
(1-800-786-6261)
Operated by a company here in Kingston.............
Gas Land petrolium Inc.
785 Broadway
Kingston NY 12401
Attn: Mitch Nesheiwat
845-331-7545
And I will also repost what I said a few replies up...
Hi Poster,
One of the other things you SHOULD do is collect as much information as you can about this situation.
To Accurately Report a Problem:
Make sure it is something you saw or heard yourself! Hearsay won't help legally. Try to take pictures or shoot a quick video. A picture IS worth a thousand words!
Take note of:
Time of day
Area, address, cross streets
Vehicle Color,Makes and Models
Describe where this takes place (e.g., basement, side of building, etc.)
Gender: Male or Female and aproximates age
Ethnicity: White, Black, Hispanic, Asian
Height
Weight
Complexion
Hair color & Hair style
Eye color
Facial hair Scars, tattoos or other identifiable marks
Identifiable traits
Distinctive clothes or jewelry
Accent if any
We also have made available this form that you can download to fill it:
http://www.teamdarcyinc.com/forms/complaint.pdf
Just click the link and then either OPEN or SAVE the document. It's in Mircosoft Word and you can then print it and fill it out.
If you need more forms or information about Kingston Neighborhood Watch goto
http://www.kingston-ny-neighborhood-watch.com
Please forward completed form to:
Info@kingston-NY-neighborhood-watch.com
AND/OR
Ulster County Sheriff’s Office
Det. Lt. Ed Brewster, Det. Sgt. Brian Robertson, Det Sgt. Dirk Bodd
380 Boulevard, Kingston, NY 12401
Email to: ebre@co.ulster.ny.us
Phone: 845-384-6232
or Police Lieutenant Egidio Tinti
City of Kingston Police Department
Telephone (845) 331 4766
etinti@kingston-ny.gov
etinti@ucletg.com
Mitch N (Gast)
It may not sound like much but we are trying.
Community Neighbor (Gast)
Well done, MItch, Mike!
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
Eyes on Midtown (Gast)
buford (Gast)
PGURRIERI (Gast)
Now, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? What happened to boot-legging? Where is the employment opportunities? Where as all the MONEY gone?
Entrapment is considered 'normal' in todays society;
police consider todays society a war zone of FEAR. The only detrament to living FEAR and punishment is the only resolve that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY nothing!
PGURRIERI (Gast)
The only detriment to LIVING is FEAR; Punishment is the only accepted RESOLVE to that fear - ABSOLUTELY nothing no matter how far back in Anglo-Roaman history we go has ever been accomplished without HEALTHY anti-sickness ECONOMIES. Crime & Fear is flourishing like never before; THAT IS, since its last ignored CONSTANTLY REPEATING crime & fear cycle DOWN-HERE!
pgurrieri@verizon.net
Community Neighbor (Gast)
they need to get out of their cars.
come to the common council meeting. Tell the aldermen and your fellow citizens you want the cops on foot at least part of the time they are on duty.
Community Neighbor (Gast)
sorry
Anonymous (Gast)
I've dealt with him before--he was awesome.
buford (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
Thanks.
re the cops: I find it not a good idea to answer my own questions, but rather put the question to the responsible party and have them answer it.
If I were told by a person in office "hey, we have a manpower problem" I might ask what that has to do with a cop stepping out of his cruiser and walking around a block is a manpower problem. And then I'd wait for the explanation.
If to each question I might have, the answer comes back from them "manpower", well, I'd get a chance to question how that affects the current question.
But if all I get is myself, well, I for sure do not know all the day to day details of the police force: why the hell would I believe me? What do I know?
peace
buford (Gast)
i would highly recommend to all to listen to a police scanner. the reason why they dont get out of the cars is because they dont have time to!! plain and simple. when you see them driving, they're more than likely driving to handle a complaint. look at the police blotter on the city's main website and see how many calls they handle. and, when you listen to the scanner, you'll hear them handling nothing but stupid disputes. dispute over a cell phone, car keys, the channel on tv, money, whos going to be driving driving a car, why did someone come home late. it's ridiculous that the police are called to such petty things that people, who have half a brain, could very easily solve on their own.
And that's why, in my opinion, they don't get out of the cars.
citizen k (Gast)
However, I disagree and would rather that the citizens continue to press the matter and raise the priority of having police occasionally get out of their cars, especially in the moments when they are not responding to an urgent call. And not all calls are urgent.
There is always some flexibility in scheduling and the answer is to be creative, deploy your manpower strategically, do more with less. Indeed, working with less is a good exercise for honing management skills.
We all know how to cut back, and often we do so and find it to our advantage.
This citizen is confident that there is an hour, someplace, that a cop can be on the beat. What is surprising is that there is not a single minute when one is. A perfect score. And that can't be.
Anonymous (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
Here we are, thinking about simple, rational responses that could be made. It certainly seems reasonable.
I remember a great cartoon by Shel Silverstein, two guys hanging from shackles by their wrists off the floor on a prison wall, and one guy says to the other: "now here's my plan...."
So, what's our plan?
It would be nice if there were a place where police and citizens could talk.
If there were a cop on the beat, anytime, one could simply walk up and ask the question. "Hey, you guys know about Sunoco?"
It is good this exchange is taking place... is documents the level of concern, the date and time and certain events. It's here to see by any and all, including the police, the aldermen, the mayor.
It's all down in black and white.
gberke
Eyes on Midtown (Gast)
Supreme78th (Gast)
I witnessed this first hand yesterday morning. There should be a "No Loitering" sign outside.
Mitch N (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
While the manager is doing that, it would be a good time for us to stop by and buy a paper, some milk, something...
That would be good support from the Neighborhood Watch, for instance.
If there's no one sitting outside, you might notice that and say, hey, nice... sometimes there are a whole lot of people hanging around...
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
I agree Gerald! I'll be sharing this topic on the watch's Facebook page. Here is the link.
http://www.facebook.com/KingstonNeighborhoodWatch
annonymous (Gast)
Paul Andrews (Gast)
I apologize if I come off crass, but I feel we got way off subject. The Sunoco station has been a problem for a while. Is there any chance security cameras could be placed prominently on the premises-in the parking lot? Or the owners could be asked to stop selling beer? Could Verizon remove the Pay Phones (like they've done in most of the region)?
7-11 used to have a similar problem with loitering until the corporate management came up with a novel idea. Ever since some locations began piping in classical music, loitering has dissapeared entirely at some locations. Any chance Sunoco could do the same?
I don't know if you know this, but every city in the Empire State has a Broad Way as a showplace and centerpiece of the city (think of Manhatten). Unfortunately for Kingston, this is quickly becoming the ugliest part. There's a reason a Beautiful Theater (UPAC), the original Carnegie Library and KHS, the original Armory, City Hall and all those old brick buildings done so well (like Earl B. Feiden's) are all on Broadway. The broken window approach should be taken to improve this avenue-starting with Sunoco.
Community Neighbor (Gast)
Feidens, and many other old buildings on Broadway are of architectural interest. Shaun Johnson, a local Kingston man, has been photographing those buildings, the interesting things we no longer see or see only as blight.
Personally, I like Feidens, glad it is there: it's good and it is what it is and it works... a good local long time business. I shop, and I get my appliances there.
Community Neighbor (Gast)
then, when it is cleaned up, point them someplace else or take them down.
Anonymous (Gast)
Community Neighbor (Gast)
This is very good news. Thank you for posting this!
Soon we might need a "good news on clickfix" newsletter... we could miss this, and we shouldn't.
Thanks again for the good news posting!
Huzzah!
annonymous (Gast)
kingstoncorridor.com (Gast)
If there is that kind of calling, the best they can say is "I wasn't talking to him."
frank (Gast)
i think that the sunoco is a pick up spot for day workers
fed up teen (Gast)
Kingston corridor (Gast)
Contact Jennifer Fuentes, ward 5 alderman... And join here ward 5 yahoo group: she gets things done.
annonymous (Gast)
EyesOnMidtown (Gast)
buford (Gast)
annonymous wrote: "Have you heard of any prostitute stings or of any being arrested in the paper..NO... What are the police doing when they drive by? I would like to know... "
well, anny, yes! there have been many prostitution stings. but you won't see anymore, though. wanna know why? because stings cost money for overtime. how effective do you think a 'sting' is gonna be when the po-po shows up in uniform in a marked police cruiser? and since hizzoner decided to cut the police budget in 1/2, there is hardly any money for anything. the citizens should be lucky that the phones still work on garraghan drive. the mayor has authorized money be spent on patrols only. any overtime generated by contractual obligations (overtime by minimal staffing and court) is it! no stings! no nothing!!
this is what your elected mayor has 'elected' to do. you just wait til he announces MORE layoffs to the city pd. you think newburgh is bad? don't forget that just this week a 10 year old boy was killed by gunfire! this is exactly what kingston is going to become. why? because the mayor refuses to support the police department. he would much rather cut the police force even more rather than cutting hizzoners precious consultants.
and where are the police going when they drive by? probably to the usual b.s. calls they get on a constant basis because people have to be animals instead of being civil.
kingston IS destined to become another newburgh. you wait and see. and who can we thank? hizzoner!!
and dont think that the pd personnel heads are the only ones on the chopping block. other city workers will be out on development court as well. it is so sad that this mayor is driving this city into the ground and no one is going to do anything about it.
bookmark this quote because in a year from now, you'll be believing my words.
watchbird (Gast)
It is a good question that many people in Kingston could ask: where are the police cars going, how is it tha they cannot get out of their cars to meet and greet the citizens, how is it that the city cannot hire part time police to put on the beat in the well known trouble spots in Kingston?
Bad government, a bad alderman or two, a less than energetic police force... it adds up.
It does not take a major police hiring just to fix the Sunoco problem. Stopping, looking around, following the leads of the many citizens who have written here, that takes a couple of hours over a couple of weeks: people breaking the law know they are breaking the law, and don't want to be recognized by the police certainly don't want to attract them. They know they are carrying drugs, etc, and don't want to risk a search.
Fearful in midtown (Gast)
annonymous (Gast)
studderer (Gast)
also watch out for wheelers and bryan and jill greeke
Kingston corridor (Gast)
But in over 40 years in Kingston and Old Hurley and Woodstock, 2010 is the beat year for Kingston, ever.
An artistic and tech savvy bunch of people have taken their energy and activism to the net and the place is hopping. Kinstoncitizens.org is a great place to start and find wonderful links, and then there is kingstonhappenings.org of the Main Street Manager and new aldermen Hayes and Andi and Jennifer bringing really good government to our town.
annonymous (Gast)
fed up teen (Gast)
As far as the police and the mayor go ---- the mayor has got to go!!!!!!! And police can pull people over in undercover cars, why cant they pull over and talk to the prostitutes and drugs addicts in undercover cars?!?!?! Doesn't make any sense. Speeding is wrong and quite dangerous, but I dont think it's any more dangerous than doing or selling drugs, or spreading disease by prostitution!!! Also I agree that "BOOT" is no threat, he's a crack head and annoying! In my last post i mentioned an african american man that begs for cigarettes and is very harrassing. I was not refering to "BOOT". I was referrintgt to an older man within 40-55 years of age. Tall and skinny.
Also, annonymous, on your last post, I agree 100 percent. I lived in north Charleton, S.C. for 4 years, loved it there! I came back for the family. It's almost unbareable here! I have been trying to convince them to move down south, because I'm not sure how much more I can take
Anonymous (Gast)
I wish I had gotten the landscaper's company name, but it happened very quickly.
getitright (Gast)
annonymous (Gast)
watchbird (Gast)
Indeed, this use might tend to drive out the less savory visitors... one could hope.
annonymous (Gast)
watchbird (Gast)
It's illegal on the order of jaywalking, and no, you would not be deported by any other country.
It is a federal crime, enforceable only by the feds and meant to be applied at the borders and to control work permits and visas and in general are meant for security.
It is millions of people (approx 13 million) and years (approx 15) past the time it can be considered a crime. You'd get in more trouble with an F word or an N word.
It is however, a crime to aid and abet and entice people to work for you without a visa and therefore skirt labor and health laws: if you're planning to run for federal office, I'd stay away from that. If you're planning on employing 100 people in your factory, well, that could get you in trouble. If you've found a skilled laborer nothing prevents you from paying that person a fair wage for fair labor, being kind to them. It is mostly the laws of decency and fairness that is American.
It is a federal matter: tell your congressman and senator how you feel and how you will vote.
Find something serious to work on and then take some action: pick up litter, cut a lawn, write to your alderman. Shop local.
If someone assaults you in public, report the matter in writing to the police and see that you get a response.
Let Arizona sort this one out.
Get a pen name.
annonymous (Gast)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
It is illegal to be in Italy or Spain if you outstay your visa.. I know this from a family member.. Please educate your self on Immigration policies before stating your opinion. I am not trying to put anyone in there place , but facts are facts.. This is the Wikipedia version on immigration status, and yes I believe in Arizona's new status on people who do not belong here.. if they want to stay do it the legal way.. We all live by laws and it is not right to break them. No matter how bad you want to be here..
fed up teen (Gast)
Supreme78ism (Gast)
bopdylan (Gast)
annonymous (Gast)
frank (Gast)
that should be something to talk about
watchbird (Gast)
One of the things that gets done is that there is a shared awareness of the problem, and that some of the problems to some aren't problems to others.
There is a supposition of illegal activity going on, people all seem to agree it looks like crap... and there are nearing 200 comments. It will take a concerted read to go through all the comments to date, distill the results, and send that to the police, the newspapers, the aldermen.
And the are quite a few things happening that will affect Sunoco albeit indirectly, as neighboring properties get improved, as some of the abandoned buildings in the area get removed or maintained (see Hayes Clement) and then there is a comprehensive plan for Kingston being started, there is also a huge piece of work on the 587 interchange, Keegan is having an affect, there is more work on Broadway and St James, there is Seven 21 Media Center...
This is building up a sizeable record of citizens' views... and the whole acquisition and planning for the Kings Inn Motel...
Seeclickfix is technically lacking: for one thing, it's not searchable, and it's hard to generate numbers, there is no facility for sublinks: right now it's pretty much a elementary tool, with almost no moderation or filtering of what is going on. That is a serious short coming.
So, everyone gets to write their thoughts and bit by bit things are getting better.
luke (Gast)
annonymous (Gast)
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
7 months... along time to wait but in the end something was done...
Today the Sunoco was shut down and warrents were served. From the information I got, they are looking at benefit card fraud and illegal check cashing.
As I get more information, I'll post it here and on
http://www.facebook.com/KingstonNeighborhoodWatch
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registrierter Benutzer)
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2010/11/09/news/doc4cd9955478309063572285.txt?viewmode=fullstory
By PAUL KIRBY Freeman Staff
KINGSTON – Law enforcement authorities raided a Midtown gas station this morning in connection with an investigation that turned up a scam involving the theft of perhaps $1 million in Ulster County social services money, police said.
Kingston Detective Lt. Timothy Matthews said two people were in custody and a third man, who is the owner of the Sunaco Gas Station on Broadway at Franklin Street, was still being sought.
Matthews said the theft involved the use of electronic benefit cards given to clients of the Ulster County Department of Social Services.
The scam operated this way:
For example, Matthews said, a client would give a gas station clerk the card for a $200 purchase. The gas station would keep $100 and then give $100 to the client.
Usually, Matthews said, the client would use that money to buy narcotics or other things that are not allowed for purchase, such as alcohol, with the electronic card.
Matthews said the gas station was collecting $6,000 of a month as part of the scam beginning in January, 2009. By October, 2010 that amount had risen to $60,000 a month, Matthews said.
“It steadily went up,” Matthews said.
Investigators started an investigation six months ago using undercover personnel to play out the scam, Matthews said.
The investigation was conducted by Kingston police, the Ulster County District Attorney’s Office, and the Ulster County Department of Social Services.
Community Neighbor (Gast)
A big one in the win column! Let's not forget... this is a really big win!!!
Many many many thanks..
You can bet that there will be more... Not clear yet how many social services checks were going to the "wrong" people. And pity the "right people", who get social services, and get tarred with this brush.
Eyes on Midtown (Gast)
Thanks KPD for the due dillegence in fixing this matter.
fmerg (Gast)
they should also look into weather or not any of the money was used for terrorist groups
i know that this sounds racist but you never know
peaceatlast (Gast)
you sound foolish, not racist.
Geschlossen Seriously? (Registrierter Benutzer)
Reportedly some activity has shifted from sunoco to the cedar street deli. Whether this is true or not, is unseen.
So awesome to see this site working!